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Workers’ Comp Exemptions – Worthless?

Coverage DeniedIs it worth it to go get a workers’ comp exemption from the state?

“Oh I don’t need comp, I’m exempt.” Have you heard this before?

Perhaps it is best to start with a few definitions to clear things up.

In Florida, Every employer is subject to the workers’ compensation act, regardless of how many employees they have1. The statute more or less states that an employer shall cover the expenses and lost time of any employee hurt on the job.2

An exemption from outside coverage is available from several states when there are certain conditions met, such as 1 employee or less, all employees are also 25% or more owners, etc. This exemption must be applied for, paid for and filed with the state.3

There are no “automatic exemptions.” No one is “exempt” by default. The state must approve the exemption.

Once an employer has received such an exemption, he or she is making a promise to the state that they will pay for all workers’ compensation claims with their own funds. In a phrase, they are “self-insured.”

Some employers argue that being self-insured is enough, since a lawsuit will only proceed against an insurance company. Please be advised that lawyers are aware that most small business owners have other assets, such as homes, cars, retirement funds, children’s college funds, etc. Since some collect a percentage based on what is recovered, it can be profitable to pursue private assets.

Exemptions No Longer Being Honored
Add to this confusion that many larger contractors and municipalities are no longer accepting workers’ comp exemptions in lieu of an actual policy. They have found that lawyers have learned to pierce the veil of an exemption and perform what is known as “climbing the ladder” to the actual contractor in the case of a sub-contractor injury. Exemptions do not protect the contractors.

So is it worth the fee ($50 to $100 for “construction” business based on the state) and the application to get an exemption? A small business owner may consider getting comp coverage instead. There are many options available, including direct policies, “pay as you go” polices from payroll companies (even Paychex and ADP are offering this now) or even the more extensive liability coverage available from a PEO (formerly Employee Leasing Company).

It is true that initially it would appear that an exemption is indeed cheaper. But as is the case with all insurance, consider this: What if something happens? What if someone gets hurt? What if the OWNER gets hurt seriously? Loses a limb or loss of an organ? A properly written and paid workers’ compensation policy will pay for all medical expenses, legal fees and up to two-thirds of lost wages for as long as the injury is in effect.

Choices: It’s left up to the business owner.
The business owner has a decision to make, to run with an exemption or to have peace of mind through a somewhat more expensive workers’ comp policy.
If a small business owner wishes to know more about exemptions, their relative uses and other options available, please use the contact form below.

The authors of this article had assistance from the members of The PEO Message, a Facebook group used to communicate within the PEO and Workers’ Comp industry. Specifically, thanks go to Doug Lilak, Christopher Yarn, Chad Filley, and Jeffrey Rendel for their valued input.

Notes:
From Florida Statutes Chapter 440
1 440.03 Application.–Every employer and employee as defined in s. 440.02 shall be bound by the provisions of this chapter.

2 440.02 (16)(a) “Employer” means the state and all political subdivisions thereof, all public and quasi-public corporations therein, every person carrying on any employment, and the legal representative of a deceased person or the receiver or trustees of any person. “Employer” also includes employment agencies, employee leasing companies, and similar agents who provide employees to other persons. If the employer is a corporation, parties in actual control of the corporation, including, but not limited to, the president, officers who exercise broad corporate powers, directors, and all shareholders who directly or indirectly own a controlling interest in the corporation, are considered the employer for the purposes of ss. 440.105, 440.106, and 440.107.

3 440.05

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Is PEO Comp Better Than Traditional Comp?

Workers’ Comp Better with a PEO?

Is PEO Comp Better Than Traditional Comp?While there are many advantages to having a PEO manage your workforce, many times it is troubles with Workers’ Compensation Insurance that brings the client to a PEO.

Is it better to be with a PEO? To have a professional partner to assist you with risk management? We of course, have a bias, but here is another point of view. This is an excellent article written by Antony Kelly
Antony Kelly’s Article

Here are some excerpts we particularly liked:
“Simply put, traditional workers comp coverage will require a small business owner to make an upfront deposit, based on an estimate of their gross annual wages. The company will send quarterly information to the insurer, who then calculates the bill and requests payments. Since these are all estimates, however, an audit is required, including a reconciliation process that will help bring the numbers together. Unfortunately, if the deposits and quarterly estimates do not cover the total amount due, the company is mandated to reimburse the carrier at the end of the year. This could potentially be a substantial cut to the small business person’s cash flow. Interestingly enough, payments that extend beyond the balance may roll over into next years beginning balance; nice for the carrier, bad for the business owner. ”

“PEO companies not only provide you with pay as you go workers compensation but also outsourced benefits and a variety of resources that help you comply with employment related issues and administrative paperwork. In fact, many businesses under 100 employees should be able to significanly reduce their in-house administrative burden through the use of a PEO, which provides additional value over traditional and pay as you go workers comp plans. ”

Thank you to Antony Kelly for writing this article, and to Shane Underwood for finding it.

When You Don't Need a PEO

When You DON’T Need a PEO

When You Don't Need a PEOPeople ask us when they need a PEO, or even why?

Hard question to answer with anything other than “Maybe you don’t!”

Our staff can spend a lot of time telling you why you should have a PEO, and you can probably find some of that on other parts of this site. For fun though, and maybe for educational purposes, we asked them, “When DON’T you need a PEO?” Well they tossed it around the bullpen and surprise surprise, they came up with at least 7 scenarios when a PEO is not called for.

Here’s some situations they gave us when you DON’T need a PEO:

      1: You don’t have any employees
      2: You have employees but they cause no problems and create no risks
      3: You are a government entity who cannot be sued
      4: You are a very large company with an internal legal and HR department
      5: You are a very large company with annual workers’ comp premiums in excess of $250,000. (In this case you should have your own, custom comp solution, such as a captive or a self funded plan. Ask us about that)
      6: You are a short term company, not likely to be around for a while
      7: You will never want to sell your company, or facilitate an easy ownership transfer

Can you think of some others? Please let us know!

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Pay As You Go Workers' Comp for Payroll Companies

Workers’ Comp Insurance Service for Payroll Companies

Pay As You Go Workers' Comp for Payroll CompaniesIt seems that payroll companies are on the rise, and more and more they are looking for workers’ comp coverage for their clients.

Wouldn’t your payroll clients like to be free of the hassle of yearly audits?
Are they sick of massive deposits and big down payments?
Are they frustrated because they can’t find coverage?

We may be ably to help your payroll company with our “Pay As You Go” workers’ comp program. Premiums can be paid as earned, by rating the current payroll against the correct comp codes. Audits can be minimized, made less painful or possibly done away with completely.

This program is designed for payroll companies and their insurance agents. Please have your insurance agent contact us to find out about this income stream that is being left by the wayside.

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PEO Services In Alabama

PEO Services in Alabama

PEO Services In AlabamaAlabama is a friendly state towards PEOs, so there is rarely a problem finding a match for your specific needs here.

Alabama is a “loss-cost” state, where the workers’ comp carriers can set their own rates by showing their own claims history. The rates must be approved, but still, it is possible to be competitive by changing carriers from time to time, and that includes PEOs.

We have PEO partners in the following locations:
Birmingham, Dothan, Mobile, Montgomery, Muscle Shoals / Florence, Columbus, and Gadsden just to name a few.

Here is an article that explains a little more about PEO Services: Why Use a PEO?

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PEO Services in Georgia

PEO Services in Georgia

PEO Services in GeorgiaGeorgia is a friendly state towards PEOs, so there is rarely a problem finding a match for your specific needs here.

Georgia is a “loss-cost” state, where the workers’ comp carriers can set their own rates by showing their own claims history. The rates must be approved, but still, it is possible to be competitive by changing carriers from time to time, and that includes PEOs.

We have PEO partners in the following locations:
Atlanta, Macon, Dalton, Lawrenceville, Valdosta, Savannah, Brunswick, Augusta and Athens just to name a few.

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PEO Services in Florida

Florida PEO ServicesFlorida is the birth place of PEOs, so there is rarely a problem finding a match for your specific needs here.

PEO Pros is an independent broker, not affiliated with any one PEO but has contracts and agreements with over 125 choices. Doesn’t it make sense to let the Pros find the best match for you?

PEOs in Florida can provide the following services to name a few:

  • Payroll Service in Florida
  • Workers’ Comp in Florida (or Florida Workers’ Comp)
  • Assistance with Unemployment Insurance in Florida
  • Assistance with Health Insurance in Florida

We have PEO partners in the following locations:
Orlando, Tampa, Jacksonville, Miami, Ft. Lauderdale, Sarasota, Bradenton, Ft. Myers, Port Charlotte, Panama City, Ft. Walton Beach, Tallahassee, Pensacola, Destin, Orange County, Lake County, Osceola County, Seminole County, Volusia County, Brevard County, Okaloosa County, Santa Rosa County and Polk County; just to name a few.

Here is an article that explains a little more about PEO Services: Why Use a PEO?

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New “Knol” on PEOs vs. Staffing Companies

Jason Irving of Urban Recruiters Staffing and John Will Tenney of PEO ProsShown here with strategic partner Jason Irving of Urban Recruiters Staffing, PEO Pros CEO John Will Tenney has written an article for Google Knols discussing the history of PEOs and how they differ from Staffing Companies.

“We get asked this question all the time.” Tenney tells us, “It’s not a simple answer. I expect this will only be the first of a few articles discussing it. For example, with a recovering economy such as we are in today, Staffing makes a lot more sense for business owners that are cautiously expanding their business.”

Here is the link to the Knol. Your comments and reviews are welcomed.

Excerpt: “In many ways, PEOs and Staffing companies are similar, but in fact they cover the opposite ends of the HR spectrum. In this article, John Will Tenney of PEO Pros explains the history and formation of PEOs, and a little of the differences and similarities between PEOs and Staffing.”

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We Sponsor Local Wellness Groups

Waterford Runners Starting Line PrepIn an effort to promote better health and wellness in our community, we are lending support (financial and otherwise) to local athletic clubs.

Good health is not only harder to come by but more important than ever to achieve naturally, rather than relying on doctors and expensive pharmaceuticals.

While a healthy diet is important, nothing is better for healing and wellness than exercise. We thank our marketing partners for providing organized exercise.

Concentrating on outdoor sports: we sponsor the following organizations:

Waterford Runners – bi-weekly free 5K run.

Eastside Cycling Club – Wednesday and Saturday organized bicycle rides.